Just an Update

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Sporting my ninja turtle look. Hi from Recoveryville! Turtle power!

Hey guys!  I’ve been having so much fun with my Disney reviews I don’t want you to think I am ignoring this blog.  While still in recovery honestly not a lot has been happening in my life.

As far as my recovery I have made huge strides with my knee.  I don’t need my cane anymore which is great and I can get down and up the stairs with relative ease.  I went to a movie yesterday and that was a lot of pressure on the knee, so maybe a bit early on that but I made it through.

I also went to the grocery store for the first time last week which was very exciting!  You sure appreciate the small things when you are injured.

But thankfully I feel confident I will be close to fully recovered in the next 2 weeks.  Hurray!

I just finished review #20 on my Disney blog and it has been so much fun.  If you haven’t take a look check it out http://54disneyreviews.wordpress.com/

Today’s review is The Aristocats which was not my favorite because I felt it borrowed too much from Lady and the Tramp and 101 Dalmations.  I don’t care for Disney when I feel it is being lazy.

http://54disneyreviews.wordpress.com/2014/09/03/movie-20-the-aristocats/

I also did a post on my youtube channel about romantic comedies that turned out pretty well.

I have book club coming up this Saturday and I am very excited about that.  We are reading To Kill a Mockingbird and am about half way done on this reading.  One thing that strikes me on this read-through is how little time is actually spent in the courtroom.  It’s all about the relationship building done in subtle interactions of the family.

A friend of mine told me she had never reread a book before and that still amazes me.  A book like To Kill a Mockingbird changes with each reading, so you really miss out on reading it once.   I hope someone comes to book club because I’m looking forward to discussing it.

Other news…I saw Guardians of the Galaxy yesterday and I liked it.  Comic book movies will never be my favorite but this was a lot of fun.  I thought the characters were the best part.  The story was more standard and predictable.  The villain was ok. But the characters were charming and Chris Pratt as Starlord reminded me of a young Harrison Ford.

Have any of you seen it?  What did you think?  Definitely one of the best comic book movies I’ve seen in a long time.  It didn’t take itself too seriously which is what I like about the Marvel films.  DC films like Man of Steel are so morose and brooding.

Anyway, I liked it.

But that’s about it.  I’ve been watching Big Brother and it was fun while Zach was there but have kind of lost interest.  Any of you watching that show?  Looks like Derrick is going to win and he’s played a good, if rather tedious game

Life is pretty boring at the moment but I’m happy with that.  Just want to be 100% and be able to cook a meal again.  Going to be a great day when it happens.  Thank you so much for all the support and prayers.  I have felt them everyday.  Love you all!

29 thoughts on “Just an Update

  1. I respect your opinion on Guardians of the Galaxy and I know that is the way the majority feels. I can’t argue that, it worked for you and it worked for most people. It didn’t work for me. I’m not the target audience, I don’t like superhero movies very much. But I have always believed in individual thinking, and I know you did not like his Incredibles review, I didn’t either but I honestly agree firmly with Confused Matthew on this one. I’m like you from the way you described yourself, I take movie reviewing seriously, and probably over-analyze and overthink most films.

    I think the Confused Matthew style of reviewing is fundamentally flawed because it is based only on the screenplay and nothing else, but it does line up well with mine on conventional Hollywood films, because I think they should focus on story and the quality of the screenplay more than they do. I still don’t think this functions well even as mindless popcorn entertainment, mostly because the tone isn’t set well from the opening scene and I’m just going to go ahead and quote this excerpt from Confused Matthew’s review, because it honestly does sum up my thoughts perfectly:
    “This movie does nothing but explain the plot. There is never a story where the characters can participate in the plot. All we get from the characters are their backstories. There is never a moment for these characters to develop personalities. The plot in a general sense revolves on a villain trying to get ahold of an alien artifact that will give him control of the universe. You may remember this plot from EVERY SINGLE ****ING PLOT THESE G*****N MARVEL MOVIES HAVE EVER HAD! But see, this is just a general description of what’s going on. In particular, this is what’s going on: A race of aliens known as the Kree recently made a peace treaty with a world called Xandar. One of these Kree, a guy named Ronan, doesn’t recognize that treaty and he wants Xandar wiped out. To do that, he wants an orb that a group of space pirates also wanted and sent Quill to receive. So Ronan sends Gamora who is the daughter of this other character who Ronan is also working for who also wants the orb to retrieve it but Gamora betrays Ronan and the other guy and intends to sell it instead to another character called the Collector who also wants the orb for OH MY GOD SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT THE **** UP WHY IS THIS SO COMPLICATED?! WHY IS IT THIS MUCH OF A MESS? WHY IS THERE THIS MUCH MINUTIAE TO KEEP TRACK OF? I thought this was supposed to be fun! Where is the G*****N STORY IN ALL OF THIS?!!!”

    1. Thanks for sharing that perspective. I actually think that sounds like a good story. Its an origin story movie and i actually thought it was very different than the other Marvel movies. I got to know the characters and while i agree the villain was one note it wasnt enough to ruin the movie.

      Im not the biggest superhero movie fan but I’d way rather have a movie like Guardians than the morose ponderous Man of Steel. I actually think all the Marvel movies are quite different and varied. I certainly like them better than the DC movies.

      i really didnt think it was that complicated. I followed the story well and look forward to seeing where it will go. I took my neices and they didnt have a problem following it. It had a nice comradarie with the team and i really liked Gamora. She was a villain tough to figure out. Some of the characters like the collector I’m sure we will see more of in the next movie.

      I loved Groot and the raccoon. There was such heart from them when they could have been silly.

      Confused Matthew needs to lighten up. To me it was a new Star Wars.

      But if he didnt like Guardians that’s fine. No need to insult and swear at people who do.

      Anyway always appreciate alternative points of view. Thanks for sharing.

    2. What are your 10 favorite movies? I will watch them unless too objectionable contentwise and let’s talk a little more about what we agree on. What do you say?

      1. I don’t exactly keep a Top 10 and I think Django Unchained at least is too objectionable. You can give me your Top 10, if you want.

        Your all-time favorite is Up, I believe.

        I think Up is an animated gem. It’s intelligent, funny, whimsical and realistic, and entertaining from beginning to end while having a solid heart. I watched it twice in the theater, and enjoyed it from beginning to end.

        Many people say The Little Mermaid teaches bad messages and Who Framed Roger Rabbit started the Disney Renaissance. Who Framed Roger Rabbit was a fun, well-made movie, but The Little Mermaid was an instant classic. It was a remarkable return to classic Disney, a movie most people of any age can find something to enjoy or relate to.

        It had great songs, great characters, and a sense of humor. One thing I especially liked is that the three characters that could just be used as comic relief serve a purpose: Sebastian serves the JIminy Cricket role of trying to keep Ariel out of trouble, Flounder is someone for Ariel to relate to and give her necessary companionship, while Scuttle motivates Ariel’s love for the human world and fascinates her even further. He even provides for amusing conflict by his lack of actual knowledge about basic things that someone who is a member of the human world would need to understand.

        Both Up and The Little Mermaid are animated treats that contain a brilliant blend of fantasy and heart with great memorable characters that are easy to identify with. Often copied but never duplicated.

        1. Totally agree with you on both of those! Couldn’t have said it better myself. Very good point about the comic relief in Little Mermaid serving a purpose. I love how it has so many different kinds of comedy. Slapstick with the chef, dialogue, situational humor, even some mime type when she can’t talk.
          I also love all the bubbles and the beauty of the animation.

          Up I love because it was like a hug from my Grandpa who I miss so much. I loved the way a character dies and yet her presence is a palatable force throughout the rest of the movie. It reminded me that my Grandpa is that kind of force in my life. It was beautiful with a great heart and humor. I love the score as well. Perfection.

          My top 10 (something like this)
          1. Up
          2. Breakfast at Tiffany’s
          3. Little Mermaid
          4. Star Wars
          5. To Kill a Mockingbird
          6. Sound of Music
          7. Perks of Being a Wallflower
          8. Where the Wild Things Are
          9. Mary Poppins
          10. Wizard of Oz
          Ask me on another day I might pick another 10 but for today that’s what I am going with. 🙂

    3. Oh and i do know what it’s like to not care for a movie everyone else likes. It just happened in fact. I watched Gone Girl and honestly i kind of hated it. I thought it was completely preposterous and absurd. I dont need to rub my feelings in the nose of people who liked it. I’m glad when anyone likes a movie. That’s awesome. 🙂

  2. ” I took my neices and they didnt have a problem following it. ”

    The thing about the movie is it works well if you turn your brain off and focus on the orb being thrown around from person to person and keep track of who the good guys are. The movie is simple enough to follow when you accept that it pretends to be complex to cover up the fact that it’s brainless popcorn entertainment. Your nieces are probably more willing to slip into a fantasy world, being younger. Young people tend to be more willing to jump into a fantasy world and abandon reality and I in fact watched the movie with many people, including an 11-year-old boy who seemed to like it a lot and had no trouble following it. Someone I know who liked it told me he doesn’t watch Mad Men because it contains no fantasy. Mad Men is my favorite television show of all time, there.

    But please look at the Wikipedia article and tell me you can’t comprehend the movie being difficult to make sense of when you have nonsense words like “Korath, subordinate to the fanatical Kree Ronan, Gamora, Nova Empire capital world Xandar, the Kyln, Thanos, Knowhere a remote criminal outpost built in the severed head of a Celestial, abducted from Earth by the Ravagers a group of space pirates led by Yondu Udonta”. I’m sorry I’m just an idiot because I think someone should explain what these words actually mean. This is just complete gibberish to me, and there’s no real attempt to make sense of it when the only human character in the world has been abducted long enough to understand it perfectly and the only attempt at humanization is plugging a dime in the tragic-backstory machine and having him listen to bad pop music just so we can have some comic relief thrown in to cover the inadequacies of the script.

    If I’m a simple-minded idiot, then the movie failed even more in my opinion because that’s what it was trying to be: simple-minded turn off your brain entertainment. As soon as it was over I asked my aunt “All right, how much of that could you make out?” and she said “Not a whole lot, sorry.” I asked her a few days later what she thought the movie was about and she said “Seemed like mostly a lot of fighting.” Doug and Rob Walker liked the movie and admitted it didn’t hold your hand or explain the complex world much at all. An Abridged Script of the movie, from someone who liked it and gave it 4/5 stars, wrote this:
    “KAREN GILLAN
    My liege Ronan, Korath has returned from Morag, but Quill has the Infinity Stone you agreed to trade to my father Thanos, in exchange for him destroying the Kree world of Xandar, home of the Nova Corps!

    ZOE SALDANA
    (furiously checking marvel.wikia.com)
    Dammit girl SLOW THE **** DOWN. You’ll give the audience a ****ing migraine at this rate.”

    I’m not the only one who feels this way and I didn’t even have to look hard to find someone in real life.

    I don’t think Confused Matthew was insulting people who liked the film at all, just the movie itself. But then not being Mormon, I don’t mind swearing at all (it doesn’t even register unless there is someone with me who it would bother) and I enjoy someone getting that passionate and involved in a movie. A lot of people don’t understand why a person would get so angry at a movie but I like that a person can care so much about movies and what a film means to them. I completely relate and the review spoke to me. I won’t apologize for that. You are with the majority and I liked the review because it spoke to the minority.
    Einstein said of the book One Hundred Authors Against Einstein, “Why 100? If I were wrong, one would have been enough”. Movie-reviewing is not objective at all and it doesn’t really matter in the slightest, it’s impossible to dispute, but I have always liked the principle. And I felt exactly the way Confused Matthew did before I ever heard him say so in the review.

    I hated every second of the movie and I have no desire to watch it again. But I am glad to know it worked for someone, and that it worked for most people. If It seems I’m angry or negative about anything, it’s only the movie itself. I have no idea what goes through other people’s brains when they watch/read anything. That’s not my fault.

    1. Ok. Thanks for sharing that opinion. Just because i may not have gotten all the names didnt mean i basically understoof what was going on. I didn’t get the rebel alliance, Darth Vader and all the intricacies of Hawn, Luke, Obi-Wan on an initial go-around. I did get a movie about a group of people in a future world, gathering, fighting evil and winning at the end. I was introduced to fun characters and excited for the new world. Same with Guardians. Can i write a book on it? No but the general goings-on wasnt hard and i didnt have to turn my brain off.

      Anyway I suppose we will have to agree to disagree and i LOVE the soundtrack. It has made me so happy since i got it.

      You’ve shared your perspective. I respect your view. I’m glad you found an ally in Confused Matthew. That’s great. I liked Guardians. I liked the world, characters and story even with an admittedly weak villain (well they focused on the wrong villain. Gamora was a lot more compelling)

      I can’t explain it any other way. To me it did what Star Wars did down to the lovable creature who cant talk.

      But it’s all good. I hope you found other movies you enjoyed last year.

      1. I did, and most of them came out long before last year. The only movies I saw that came out last year were Interstellar and Big Hero 6. And that mostly encouraged my dislike for modern filmmaking because Interstellar never came close to reaching the heights of 2001: A Space Odyssey. It’s a fun science-fiction movie to watch on a Sunday afternoon, though, I’ll give it that.

        1. Fair enough. I am not as big a fan of 2001 as you are but I can see why you love it. I prefer Kubrick’s more traditional narratives like in Dr Strangelove and The Shining.

  3. There was also an essay called “Guardians of the Galaxy and the rise of post-plot cinema” that read:
    “For me, from the first moment a Yondu was dropped and a Ronan was feared and a Thanos was intoned — all of them playing Very Important Roles to the people in the movie but, it seemed, amounting to little more than a mythic mishmash to those of us outside it — I was turning up my hands.

    I don’t mean to suggest there aren’t discernible narrative developments in the film. Yes, there’s an important orb whose owner controls the fate of the universe. And there are various factions trying to get their hands on it, each with varying degrees of financial, psychological and megalomaniacal motivation. Characters even have, in a few cases, a semi-coherent or moving back story. But it is not easy to explain, crisply and without descending into a certain kind of obfuscatory mumbo-jumbo, what is actually happening. In fact, it’s far from clear that the characters can explain, crisply and without descending into a certain kind of obfuscatory mumbo-jumbo, what is actually happening.

    More important, I’m not sure we’re supposed to be able to explain it. The way the film is structured, coherence of any kind — why people are literally doing what they’re doing, or what the plausible psychological explanations are for what they’re doing — seem beside the point. This all seems to be less a question of whether Guardians makes sense as it is that it doesn’t much matter in the first place. The movie was built to be consumed without any holistic understanding of what’s happening or why—without any sense that one should want a clear understanding of what’s happening or why. (There is a strange, perhaps super-meta irony in the film making frequent reference to cinematic classics like The Maltese Falcon, Raiders of the Lost Ark and Star Wars, all movies in which storytelling matters very much.)”

    I am not alone on this.

    And I can think about the philosophical implications and thematic complexity of 2001: A Space Odyssey and Mad Men for hours. I understand what every word not spoken and every word that is spoken means for the characters on Mad Men and what the last shot of every episode is attempting to communicate for the greater picture, and the show’s implications about life and the human condition. I could even make sense of most of the ending of 2001 before I ever heard it explained, simply based on emotions. I don’t have trouble understanding complex themes or storytelling techniques.

    1. Cool. I never said you were alone. I cant explain why i liked it any more than i already have. Different strokes i guess

    2. If you’d like another person who agrees with you on Guardians and Marvel who is very smart and writes nuanced reviews check out Conrad Falco’s blog. He’s great. We disagree on most everything but i always respect his reviews.
      https://cocohitsny.wordpress.com

      Take care! 🙂

    3. The other thing is in a scifi or fantasy film the absolute worst thing a movie can do is explain everything. Thats what made the prequels and Last Airbender so awful. All we need to know is that it is about an eclectic group of good guys zipping around the galaxy trying to defeat the bad guy. That’s it. I don’t need to know the intricacies of the force like the prequels gave us with metachlorins. I just need to know it works for the good guys.

      Guardians is about a group of good guys who gather together and fight the bad guy, zipping around the galaxy with good dialogue and chemistry, and an entertaining soundtrack. The villain could have been better but it does what its trying to do exceedingly well and i was cheering along the way. If that means i turned my brain off than whatever. I appreciate this kind of story and i think perhaps this kind of story just isnt for you. It’s a battle of good vs evil with characters i liked just like Star Wars.

      Anyway i know i won’t convince you and I’m not trying too. I just wanted to explain my view.

      1. That’s fine. But you’re right, the movie is just that simple and I don’t like that. I don’t like that kind of simplistic outline for a movie. I very much care about the story above all else, and being told a good story with interesting characters.

        The Harry Potter books explained everything. The third book in particular had the main characters stay in the Shrieking Shack for several chapters until every single question the reader could possibly have had been answered and everything made perfect sense (although a lot was based on phenomenal coincidence). I think the worst thing the movies did was explain next to nothing important. When I learned that someone I know had only watched the movies, I asked her if she thought Harry’s parents had come back as ghosts to save him in the graveyard. She said, “Well, it certainly seemed like it.”

        I haven’t seen the prequels or Last Airbender and I don’t want to for obvious reasons, so I can’t comment on them.

        I am not opposed to turning your brain off and enjoying a simple story. Django Unchained is violent junk containing next to no moral value or deeper meaning, but it was very entertaining, and it did well at exactly what it was trying to do. It had a simple story but it was at least a story and it was very story-driven. It also had great characters in my opinion. It was a tribute to violent spaghetti westerns that weren’t that good in my opinion but it found as much value and quality that could be obtained from such a film, and in my opinion beat most of its predecessors.

        I love Doctor Who, A Wrinkle in Time, The Incredibles and Superman II. I can get behind superhero films and sci-fi, I can even enjoy mindless action and violence when it’s done well.

        But you’re probably right. This was not a movie made for me and I wish I had never seen it. I only hope I didn’t ruin it for you, because I wanted to enjoy it and I wish I could have.

        1. No worries. I have very thick skin. Your views have no effect on my view. I like a story about good vs evil and an entertaining group of characters that I like. I liked it. 🙂

        2. Given what you like you might actually enjoy the prequels. I’m serious. It has way more story than the originals but I felt like it lost all the charm and likability of the originals. What I want in my sci fi/superhero movie is a battle between good and evil, a charming group of characters, that have snappy dialogue and villain that’s defeated. Now if you go too far like Batman and Robin and make it completely ridiculous than it doesn’t work but in that movie the dialogue was poorly written and the movie was too in love with it’s sets. Guardians really tried to make a script that was funny and focused on characters that were extremely likable. The sets were more background. So they had a servicable story, a good script, a great group of new characters I’d never seen before, and they kept the action going. I have never seen Django or Dr Who (haven’t had time to see Who but mean too. Django is too violent for my taste).
          I had no problem with the level of explaining in the Harry Potter movies. They tell just enough to get me excited for the story and create likable characters. Again it’s at the core a battle of good vs evil. We have likable characters, a great villain, well written dialogue and enough explanation to get what’s going on without it being boring. There’s ton of explaining usually from Hermione who is kind of the narrator (sometimes Dumbledore). I don’t need the how what when where and why to the story. If I wanted that I could watch a Shyamalan movie or George Lucas….I just want to know these are the good guys, these are the bad guys and here’s what they are fighting for and why. Then give me some good dialogue, decent special effects and a story that clips along and I’m good.
          Where a movie like Transformers goes wrong is it does the battle of good vs evil but it doesn’t give me likable characters, the action scenes are so long, the attempts at humor are cringe-worthy, and the women are portrayed in a demeaning way. They also do a lot of explaining in those movies. For nearly 3 hours it is extremely frustrating.

          So there is a way to do the formula right and a way to do it very poorly. Such is life. We are all going to have certain types of stories that others love which we don’t get into. I’m not a huge Dark Knight fan and nearly everyone disagrees with me on that one. It was too violent and depressing. I know it is extremely well made but the type of story is just not for me. Nothing wrong with that.

  4. No, there isn’t, and obviously Django Unchained would not to be your taste. But it did feature a story of good vs. evil that was simple, featured little exposition, and actually made sense.

    The funny thing is my dad actually loves Batman & Robin mostly because he was a fan of the Adam West show as a child. I was telling him about the terrible aspects of it and he said that it sounded great and I rented it for him, and he stopped it half an hour in to tell me, “I can’t believe people didn’t like this!”
    He argued after he had finished watching that “Everyone is entitled to their own interpretation” and “The ice puns weren’t that bad, a few actually made me laugh”. So there is an audience out there for everything clearly. But I don’t think I would enjoy the prequels because of all the criticisms that they feature bad character motivation and plotholes.

    But if you are trying to make your case that exposition is bad you are really cutting your own throat because the vast majority of people do not and would never come close to agreeing with you about the Harry Potter movies. Everyone in my family rants about what wasn’t explained, and it did a lot to harm their reputation as silly stories when J.K. Rowling put time and effort into making her fictional world make sense and making them complex stories and people never put her in the same league with Shymalan and Michael Bay for that, they praised her up and down for it. All I can really get from you saying you don’t mind the lack of explanation is you have lower standards and you would be hard pressed to find anyone who agrees with you about the Harry Potter movies, in all honesty.

    We did not get enough to know what was going on in the third and fourth movie, at least. Dumbledore does not act as the narrator by muttering “Priori incantatem” and giving us no idea of what that is. I described a person who literally thought Harry Potter’s parents came back as ghosts in the graveyard and that was somehow priori incantatem. Do you have any idea what a terrible deux ex machina that is?
    The explanation in the book was very well thought out, and rewarding. It had been foreshadowed since the first book with Ollivander giving Harry the wand containing a feather from Fawkes, the same phoenix that gave a feather to Voldemort’s wand. It was a strange detail at the time but it paid off beautifully in the end. And the tension was built up very well with Harry’s previously explained escape (his mother’s protection charm) being removed.

    And doesn’t it seem cheesy that Azkaban is mentioned as this prison no one has escaped from in the third film and yet Barty, Jr. has apparently broken out with no explanation? There is also no reason why Barty Jr. apparently killed his father, why he cast the Dark Mark at the Quidditch World Cup. Why does Sirius say “The map never lies” in the third movie? How does he know anything about the Marauder’s Map? How did Sirius get out of Azkaban, too? We don’t know the answers to those questions because the director decided to waste time on stupid comic relief scenes no older than 9 would find entertaining!

    The books were very well-done in their explanations in which everything came together like a puzzle piece, and everything became rewarding because we knew we were dealing with a writer who wanted to answer our questions and the movies were reduced to more childish silly movies where logic came second, which is fine if you like that sort of thing but for a fantasy writer until 2012 J.K. Rowling did attempt at some sort of verisimilitude. There were faults in the books to be sure, there were plenty, but she tried hard to make things coherent and starting from Prisoner of Azkaban at least the movies not only frustrated people with how much made no sense and reduced the series to simplistic children’s entertainment, they demeaned the reputation of the franchise and the self-respect of the fans.

    Exposition is not a bad thing, it just needs to be integrated well into the story and made interesting. And I actually think there is a difference between blah blah blah boring exposition and explanations that make everything come together like a perfect puzzle piece.

    I realize you were describing personal taste, and all I can do is say you validated my opinion of Guardians of the Galaxy because I am passionate about quality screenwriting and leaving plot-holes open left and right so you can jam in bad comedy bits and things that aren’t important should not come at the expense of creating a world that makes sense so an audience can sink into it. You can read the review sections of many Harry Potter movies to find people saying the same things I have to a T.

    1. Fair enough. Everyone i know loves the Harry Potter movies. I think they are very well paced and don’t need the exposition. Anyway we will have to agree to disagree. Fun chatting

      1. We will have to agree to disagree to infinity plus one and I think if they read the books they would like them more. I’m tired of defending myself for liking what people consider idiocy because Kloves, Cuaron and Yates violate suspension of disbelief.

        These 4 lines over 2 hours and 37 minutes would have made me happy without annoying anyone with exposition:
        (SIRIUS: So what happens when a wand meets its brother?
        DUMBLEDORE: They will not work properly against each other. If, however, the owners of the wands force the wands to do battle…a very rare effect will take place. One of the wands will force the other to regurgitate spells it has performed – in reverse. The most recent first…and then those which preceded it… Which means that some form of Cedric must have reappeared.
        Sirius: Diggory came back to life?
        Dumbledore: No spell can reawaken the dead. All that would have happened is a kind of reverse echo. A shadow of the living Cedric would have emerged from the wand…am I correct, Harry?…. The last murders the wand performed. In reverse order. More would have appeared, of course, had you maintained the connection.)

    2. And why could Sirius and Peter randomly turn into animals? How did Peter possibly convince people Sirius was the traitor and fake his own death?

      I am going to quote from Rod Hilton’s Abridged Script of HP 4:
      “CLEMENCE POESY
      You saved my sister’s life! Thank you so much!
      DANIEL RADCLIFFE
      Saved her life? You mean the school would have actually allowed a little girl to die for some contest?
      CLEMENCE POESY
      Uh…
      DANIEL RADCLIFFE
      And, by extension of that, any of the people we had to rescue could have also died, even though they themselves did not choose to participate in the tournament?
      CLEMENCE POESY
      Er…
      DANIEL RADCLIFFE
      So, following this through to it’s logical origin, the people in charge of the tournament kidnapped these people against their will and tied them to rocks at the bottom of the lake for a contest with which they are not involved, putting their lives in jeopardy for merely being friends or relatives of those participating in the tournament, one of whom doesn’t even want to be part of it?
      MICHAEL GAMBON
      Stop asking questions and I’ll give you second place.”

      “DANIEL RADCLIFFE
      My parents showed up to save me when I was fighting Ralph, Michael.
      MICHAEL GAMBON
      You seem distressed. Is it because you miss them?
      DANIEL RADCLIFFE
      No. It was just such a Deus Ex Machina. I can’t believe people put up with this garbage.”

      I’ll admit I prefer books due to how they have more time to absorb you into their world and explain things, and I disagree with my brother saying people are spoon-fed with movies because books allow me to go at my own pace. But even still these are cases of blatantly bad screenwriting and prioritizing of film time on behalf of Steve Kloves.

      1. Sorry i think you are nitpicking. They are well paced, with a good villain, clever settings, good acting and stories that drew me in. There’s such heart in the story for Harry and i love how Rowling and the movies ended things. Harry Potter 7 pt 1 is only one I didn’t like because guess what- it gets bogged down in too much exposition and I got bored. That said I like both the books and movies.

        For me it just depends. Something like the Book Thief worked way better as a book than movie. Catching Fire i think was better than the book.

        Anyway we could do this all day. I appreciate your perspective so it would be nice if you could appreciate mine or does everyone have to agree with you? Just let it go. I thought Guardians and Harry Potter were fun movies with engaging characters, decent scripts and real heart. I’m sorry they didnt work for you.

        Anyway I’m done hashing this out. Thanks

        1. I didnt say agree with me but you can respect someone who has a different opinion.

          There are no winners or losers. It’s just a different opinion.

          But alas if it makes you feel better to think you beat me be my guest. Bravo my friend and have a great week.

        2. You missed the cues. Siskel or Ebert never won or lost. Go on YouTube and watch Siskel & Ebert Uncensored. After Siskel got a good quip in they both collapsed laughing and when Gene died they were the best of friends.
          “You may be an asshole, but you’re my asshole”, remember? 😄

        3. I guess at a certain point you kind of end up repeating the same arguments over and over again and it is at that point it stops being pleasant and the type of sparring which interests me. But all hail Gene and Roger! They are the heroes.

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